Time to pay the piper!

[Chief]

This weekend the site will become a paid membership site.

We're keeping the price right down so punters can easily afford to join. The tips provided here sometimes change the odds so we need to limit access in some way. The price will be $19 for a year's membership or $9 for 90 days, both with a 30-day money back guarantee.

All current members will receive a three month membership for free, while all new members will need to part with a few dollars to get access to the site.

In the end this measure will actually save paid members money as the tips are in the hands of fewer people and the odds are adversely affected less often.

[Barney]

We all have to realise there is a cost factor involved in running the site and Adrian has carried that burden for a long period now.
The cost is just a token amount and hopefully keep out the spammers as well.
Cheers
Barney
The competitions that are run can then have a small prize attached

[Chief]

PLUS - Tell your friends if they are thinking of joining they should register and account on or before Friday in order to get the free 90-day membership.

[scottywiper]

The competitions that are run can then have a small prize attached


Can we make that retrospective given my success in the tipping comp?:D :D :D

[Chief]

I am sure we can also do things like give out 90 day memberships (just add 90 days onto the expiry date of your membership) for tipping comps and the like.

[Oaksnaf]

So are we paying for the service to view specific members tips? Or are we paying for the service to use this website and post our own tips and discussion points?

Just my own personal thoughts.

Wouldn't it be better having a "subscribers" thread where those who have subscribed and paid can view. It would involve those specific members tips and discussion.

Whilst the others are still able to post their own in the 'other' section for free?

[Barney]

Mate paying to view tips and have a forum where you can discuss any thing without being banned if you mention an opposition product.Most sites i go to have pop ups which are annoying and also only let you mention the sponsors products, none of that on this site.We let people actualy advertise their horses free of charge and if you pay for one year it is only $1.60 per month.And no charge for the month if my tips have a losing month.

Unfortunately in this day and age nothing is free and Adrian has paid for this site and the old insiderail himself.
Cheers
Barney

[Chief]

You get access to all of the boards to read, post and discuss punting and punting tips.

We will probably have a little Sportingbet.com.au ad as they are big sponsors of BigFooty.com and I promised Ken at SB I'd eventually throw in an ad here. Nothing obtrusive though and we don't get any extra dough for it.

[Chief]

And no charge for the month if my tips have a losing month.I dunno that we can do that with this software though. It would involve manually adding a month to every subscriber. I don't want the RSI! Maybe you just promise to do a nude run around your block at the end of any month in which you lose :)

[Barney]

No probs if you join me.:D Wont be many losing months on past performances will most likely moz myself now.

[jay]

no probs on my behalf:)

[farr02]

While I dont post that often I do look at this site daily and take evryones tips into consideration. I am more than happy to pay $19, count me in.

[dj35]

While I dont post that often I do look at this site daily and take evryones tips into consideration. I am more than happy to pay $19, count me in.

Same as me count dj in.:D

[jaffa39]

Hi Barney and Adrian and punters.

As a past contributor to this fine sight I can tell people that the time and ffort is well worth the small token asked as a fee.

After having also supplied tips for a Gold Coast Newspaper which someone later turned into a $33 a week subscription site I think that as u can post your views unfiltered here that it is the best site around.

After being involved in horse bookmaking for 25 yrs and punting for 35 I think the value for $ 19 is the best investment you will make with comparitive sights and I no we done try and tip $ 1.20 pops here and make them our EXCLUSIVE DAILY SPECIAL as do other better known and dearer sights.


Best wishes


Jaffa39

[Chief]

As you can see I haven't implemented paid subs yet :)

This will be done soon.

[downbylaw]

I'll stay onboard as long as most of the regulars do. I'd like to know how you can tell this site has affected the price of a certain runner though?

Also it might be quite hard to attract new members if they have to pay upfront before viewing anything, i guess thats the catch 22 about it, underpriced runners vs possible wealth of knowledge missed.

But in saying that this is the chance to get an exclusive forum with quality tips going, as i can't see the borderline racing fan bothering to pay to write.

I guess time will tell huh?

And hopefully some of you will come out from behind those trees and say something!

[c.underfire]

Mate I'm happy to cough up $19, after Barney tipped Titled that won at odds of around $100 a while ago , how can anyone complain?Plus it sorts out any hangers on.Keep up the good work.

[Sporty]

I'll stay onboard as long as most of the regulars do. I'd like to know how you can tell this site has affected the price of a certain runner though?

Also it might be quite hard to attract new members if they have to pay upfront before viewing anything, i guess thats the catch 22 about it, underpriced runners vs possible wealth of knowledge missed.

But in saying that this is the chance to get an exclusive forum with quality tips going, as i can't see the borderline racing fan bothering to pay to write.

I guess time will tell huh?

And hopefully some of you will come out from behind those trees and say something!

Well some on here must of knocked my price off on GET SMART yesterday at SALE...i would of thought i would get at least 3/1 about the dog...:mad: .p.s seriously though im just glad i can help out ..like all you other fellas do..great site this...with a great bunch of blokes...;)

[nomad1965]

Well some on here must of knocked my price off on GET SMART yesterday at SALE...i would of thought i would get at least 3/1 about the dog...:mad: .p.s seriously though im just glad i can help out ..like all you other fellas do..great site this...with a great bunch of blokes...;)

Ahem....who says we're all blokes? ;)

[Barney]

Glad to have a ladies point of view on the site welcolm, and please feel free to post your views.

[Village Kid]

I agree costs should be recouped and thanks for all the effort thats gone into this site. I have no problem with none pop-up ads to make some money either. Don't get me wrong as I have no problem paying the $19 but it amuses me that I've just tipped the winner of the NZ Cup, The exacta in the Miracle Mile and declared Blacks A Fake in the Treuer and I'd be paying to give these tips! :rolleyes: Will there be any record of who's actually profitable to follow? :p

[Barney]

More than welcolme to put up a running summary as i do .Would be good actually but then again regulars know whose tips to follow and not.:D

[Sporty]

Well whats that saying boys ..your only has good has your last tip...:p

[Village Kid]

You're only as good as your profit/loss for the year as shown by Barneys excellent record longterm. You can lose a few battles as long as you win the war. :eek:

[Chief]

We have now activated Premium memberships.

Don't panic - you haven't lost your access.

As an existing user you will keep your forum access until 31st January 2007.

At that time you'll be reminded to log in to the subscriptions page (link shown here: http://www.insiderail.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2 ) and subscribe via PayPal.

Please let me know if you have trouble getting into the forum and I'll fix it up. I've tested all my changes but mistakes happen.

Thank you for your support.

[Sporty]

mate, I come on here to give tips, & would be abit silly for me to pay to look at my own tips lol...i don't follow anyones else tips on here why would i ..;)

[Sporty]

plus a little birdie told me...you are not asking anything off PETE...:p

[Barney]

Well whats that saying boys ..your only has good has your last tip...:p

I let my summarry do the talking for me but agree only as good as your last tip and right this minute pretty good.(just had a winner at Shepparton first starter)
Hope you all decide to remain on board.
Cheers
barney

[Sporty]

Barney like i said mate i come on here to give tips away out of the kindest of my heart & have a chat ...nice people on here to love reading what people have to say ..but i will not be paying to look out my own tips ...;)

p.s want to you guys reckon ..?

[maximus]

This is my first post. I am a virgin poster/forumer. One of this site members talked about a site which has scammers, etc. I know which site he means.
It has a forum and adjacent form etc. Anyhow, I was on the site for sometime and all we got was some inane individuals asking dumb questions or some scammers (heaps actually) pushing their products. Quite frankly, Iv'e had enough. Hopefully, things will be better here on INSIDE RAIL. By the way, the site referred to has now self-destructed !! Some computing stuff-up.
I won't miss it.
I lied about being a virgin !!!!!!:D :) ;)
I bet mainly dogs and a bit on the horses. I'm into form analysis big time.
I tried to pay my 12 months now but had problems. Do we have to wait to .......... ???
Is PAY-PAL the only method allowable ??
regards,
maximus

[Oaksnaf]

I thought we had 3 months?

[maximus]

I got an email tonight which said at the end of Jan 2007 we pay. I forgot all about this site - even forgot I was registered - so your guess is as good as mine !!

regards,
maximus

[Barney]

I thought we had 3 months?

The 3 months was i guess when Adrian posted going into pay site mode on 30/10/06 and he is giving until 31/1/07.
Also if i see any scamming i will just delete the post no questions asked,dont mind if some one wants to sell a horse or something similar but out and out scamming or touting will be deleted as will abuse to one another.
To have a friendly site where people feel free to post tips and not get abused is the object of this site and will remain the object.
Hopefully in the new year our tipping comps will be for prizes to add interest and meetups will be organised.
Realise that some people wont be happy and will drop out but that is something i cant help.
Cheers
Barney

[sidey_87]

Barney like i said mate i come on here to give tips away out of the kindest of my heart & have a chat ...nice people on here to love reading what people have to say ..but i will not be paying to look out my own tips ...;)

p.s want to you guys reckon ..?
I know what you're saying Sporty but as Barney said, Adrian spends money and effort on the site and because it's such a great site i'll be paying the small fee requested.

[downbylaw]

Currently 605 members of this site.

I can name Oaks, Moeee, Thor, Chadman, Sporty and myself for the dogs.
Pete, sportz, coxy and stix in the horses.
C-underfire, sidney87, barney, maitland trots and village kid in the trots. If i forgot anyone i apologise thats off the top off my head.

That leaves me with 590 members i cannot name. 590 members that rarely if ever actually post.

Loose a few of the above mentioned and the whole nucleus is gone!

[Maitlandtrots]

Nice knowing you fellas.

[Sporty]

Downbylaw is telling the truth though...to be quite honest with you all if it was my forum i would be asking for a hell alot more lol...any chance of me getting my finger in the pie...:p

[Barney]

Its only a small pie:D

[Sporty]

lol barney...i only like steak & kidney , pepper steak, & mushroom pie...:p

[Moeee]

My Goodness!
I was hoping somebody could pay me for my tips :)

[TheAvenger]

I will sign up as soon as the Paypal link works.


Glenn

[maximus]

I have been a member of an American site for some time now. I thought that I had to go "off-shore" as I couldn't find anywhere where punters wanted to talk about form analysis etc etc I write under the name "zoom_top" You may know about it. They talk exclusively about handicapping and wagering on greyhounds. I have only just discovered this site and I am pleased that I did. As you know things here are not exactly the same as the states but the theory and psychology are not all that different. I too will pay as soon as possible in the hope that I can discuss my "passion" with other like-minded souls. :) :) :)

regards,
maximus

[Barney]

Maximus feel free to start a thread on any subject that you wish to discuss and im sure some body will join in.Hope you enjoy your time here.

[TheAvenger]

I have been a member of an American site for some time now. I thought that I had to go "off-shore" as I couldn't find anywhere where punters wanted to talk about form analysis etc etc I write under the name "zoom_top" You may know about it. They talk exclusively about handicapping and wagering on greyhounds. I have only just discovered this site and I am pleased that I did. As you know things here are not exactly the same as the states but the theory and psychology are not all that different. I too will pay as soon as possible in the hope that I can discuss my "passion" with other like-minded souls. :) :) :)

regards,
maximus

Good to meet you here, Maximus. I spend most of my time in the gallops section, but wish you well, and know that you will love this site.

Regards,

Glenn

[Chief]

I will sign up as soon as the Paypal link works.


GlennIt works for me - at what point does it break?

[TheAvenger]

I will try again, about my 10th attempt. I am a verified member of Paypal!

Report:
It still would not work I got the same message just as quick as I clicked the link.

If you will PM me the email address where you want the funds sent, I will initiate payment directly from my Paypal account. The message is copied below

Error Detected

The link you have used to enter the PayPal system is invalid. Please review the link and try again.



Regards,

Glenn

[Chief]

I'll do that, but when you say "clicked the link", which link are you referring to?

[TheAvenger]

Under "paid subscriptions" in the user CP. You did receive my funds, correct?

Regards,

Glenn

[Chief]

So you click the Paid Subscriptions link - that works for me.

Are you then selecting the 90 day or 12 month option before clicking the "Order" button?

[TheAvenger]

I selected the 365 day option, then as soon as it went to Paypal I got the error code. It may just be that one must have an Australian IP address or Paypal flags it. I am in the U.S.
I had no problem whatever sendiing it directly from my Paypal account.

Regards,

Glenn

[watchdog]

So in the send money to What do you put there ? Not www. inside rail .com.au I tried that .

[Barney]

Adrian Chief has advised me that he will be upgrading the software on the weekend so all problems hopefully solved then.

[watchdog]

I tried to join today via credit card but no good tell me if I have paid you or not > watchdog

[Barney]

Watchdog have reffered query to the chief he will get back to you thanks
barney

[trifectaric]

On the link order using pay pal when you click it comes up error detected the link you have used to enter the paypal system is INVALID PLEASE REVIEW THE LINK AND TRY AGAIN same thing happens.
Is there any other way to pay? MAYBE AUST POSTAL NOTE MADE OUT TO INSIDE RAIL. AT WHAT ADDRESS THANKS RICK:confused:

[Chief]

Anyone who has problems please PM me. This should be fixed soon.

[trifectaric]

Anyone who has problems please PM me. This should be fixed soon.


THANKS CHIEF CHEERS RICK

[Chief]

Have updated the software to 3.6.4 but the PayPal issue still occurs. :mad:

Will keep working on it.

[Chief]

I will change the post about signing up to include an email which you can pay via PayPal.

If anyone wants to pay by bank deposit they can contact me.

[Chief]

The temporary solution is here: http://www.insiderail.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2

It invlolves the extra step of letting us know you subscribed, but that step will go when I work out why VBulletin won't link up to PayPal. Probably a very minor setting somewhere.

[maximus]

To Chief Administrator


Can we get an extention while these bugs are worked out ?

regards,
maximus

[Chief]

There is a workaround - the link on the stickied thread has now been fixed (it was still pointing to the old page).

You can pay right here:

http://www.insiderail.com/subscribe.htm

Then email me the details including your user name.

[Chief]

FYI: Don't worry. I won't be turning off anyone's access while we sort out payments that haven't been matched up with user accounts.

[luv2bet]

Is there somewhere i can post a money order, or another way to pay. I've never had a credit card, dont believe in em.
Maybe a unitab account... :)

[gothedons]

agree i want to pay for the year, but not through paypal any other possible ways?

[Chief]

Read this all the way through. From start to end.

http://www.insiderail.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2

[luv2bet]

Barney,
got details, will sort it out next week. you didnt mention which bank!
Cheers.

[Barney]

Anyone wishing to join can contact me thru this site or barney@insiderail.com and i can give you chiefs bank details and get you access without delay.:)

[Stix]

Now I have ALL of the last posts !!!

:D

[trifectaric]

Now I have ALL of the last posts !!!

:D


two much idle time stix.;) ;)
cheers Rick :D

[Stix]

two much idle time stix.;) ;)
cheers Rick :D
.............. and beers ! :D

[Ade]

Is this about the birdcages around Australia where the horses parade before hitting the track?